Sunday, June 1, 2014

When running electricity to an outdoor outlet for a hot tub do you always need to use outdoor wire/line?







My hot tub is sitting on a deck. This hot tub is suppose to run on 116V / 18A service. I would buy the Circle D hot tub switch box and double pole GFCI breaker, but given that my hot tub runs on single pole service, I do not want to spend $100 if I don't need to. Or should I do it anyways to prepare the way for a new hot tub?

My plan is to use a 20amp GFCI breaker at my main panel and then run 10/3 through aluminum conduit to an outdoor junction box located on the perimeter of my home but under the deck and then the same indoor 10/3 wire would be in weatherproof plastic conduit for about 2 ft until it reaches the switch and outdoor outlet box mounted on the perimeter wall above my deck.

Can I run 10/3 indoor wire from my main electric panel to an outlet mounted on the perimeter of my basment wall (meaning that the wire will pass through my perimeter wall right into the outlet box)? Or do i need to use outdoor 10/3 wire instead? My understand that whenever you run electricity outside, a good practice is to always use weatherproof / waterproof plastic conduit.

Why then would one even buy outdoor wiring if overall it is best to use conduit anyways?

So can I use my indoor 10/3 wire outside and bury it if I so choose as long as it is in weather proof / water proof conduit?

Is there an adapter to attach aluminum conduit (used within my basment) to flexible plastic waterproof conduit that will be used outside and under my deck...or will I need to use a junction box?



Answer
Jim W has the best other answer, but not sure what he means about "outdoor" wire not needed in conduit. Building wire is rated for dry, damp, or wet locations, and when outside (conduit or not) needs to be wet location wire (such as THWN). There is also direct burial wire (such as UF), which is not needed in conduit (if that is what you are referring to as "outdoor"). A dry location wire like normal romex (NM, NM-B) cannot be used outside, conduit or not.

Your 116V/ 18A is odd. Standard is 120V (but 115, and 110 are commonly used). It needs to be hard wired? A small hot tub on 120V I would expect to just be a plug-in type. If it does need to be hard wired, like Jim said there are a lot of rules that need to be followed. Outdoor hot tubs have all the same rules as pools. Get someone qualified to do the work.

Wilderness Resort in Wisconsin dells? surfing?




Jme


On the comercial there has been that surf boarding thinggg! and it looks wayyyy fun.. and i was wondering if its outside or inside...for the water parks


Answer
Ive been to the Wilderness several times and Im almost positive there isnt a surfing area. The Kalahari does have surfing though.

However, to answer your question about indoor/outdoors, there are both.
"Wild West" is an indoor waterpark with a small wavepool, a kid play structure, indoor/outdoor hot tub, a few body slides/raft slides, a large family size raft slide, and the "Cannonbowl" which is the "toilet bowl" raft ride. This is open year round.
"Klondike Cavern" is also indoors, with a kid play structure, indoor/outdoor hot tub, body slides and raft slides, and the "Hurricane", a raft ride where you go down a steep drop and into a funnel. Also open year round.
Connected to Klondike Cavern by a walkway, there is the Wild Waterdome which has a glass roof that lets you tan in the winter. It has a giant wave pool and a few raft rides, and a small kid area.

Of course, in the winter, the outdoor areas are closed, but here are the descriptions if you are going in the summer.
"Lake Wilderness" is located outside of "Wild West". It has a basketball/lap pool, body slides and tube slides, climbing structure, kids area, large hot tub, and a pool with an island in the middle to sit on.
"New Frontier" is located outside of "Klondike Kavern" with a kids play structure, lazy river, basketball pool, hot tub, and tube and body slides.
"Lost World" is located behind the Glacier Canyon Lodge, another resort connected to the Wilderness by skywalk (no charge to use their waterpark). It has a large two level lazy river, kids area, and hot tub. It also has "Halleys Comet Racers", a series of slides in which riders lay on mats on their stomachs and race each other down.

Also, the Wilderness has an indoor arcade and foam play structure, with an indoor/outdoor hot tub right by that opens into "Lake Wilderness"

http://wildernessresort.com/

If you are going to the Wilderness, I suggest eating at Moosejaw, a tradition for us. Its down the road.




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