How to eliminate outdoor rats?

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maddammari

We've been having rats in our back yard for 3yrs now and it's costing a tremendous amount of money to repair the damage they've done and to kill them off. My neighbor has fruit trees, so there is nothing we can do to prevent the food source as he won't cut them down. His newest one, planted right under 4yrs ago in his backyard (which is our problem tree) is planted only 4feet away from our fence. The rats eat in his yard and take shelter in ours. We can't eliminate their shelters as they've used our hot tub (3 motors have been replaced already due to chewing wires), our BBQ pit (has been replaced twice, but begging husband not to replace it again as we just noticed yesterday this new one has gone to sh$t as well) and our shed since we need it to house our lawn tools. The hot tub & BBQ pit is in our screen patio so of course constant replacing of the screen is needed...as you can see I'm just FED up! My daughter can't go in the backyard anymore (scared of her touching something contaminated) and since I'm deathly afraid of rats I can't go in the backyard anymore without my husband being there...and since he works away 2wks out the mouth, I'm screwed! We've purchased every type of trap there was. The glue traps weren't strong enough and the wood/spring traps failed on a few rats that my husband had to shoot with a pellet gun to kill them as they couldn't get out the patio with a trap around their neck to escape. We now have the T-Rex traps and although the pellet gun has stayed in the closet now...it seems as though the rats are to smart for these traps! We've only killed a hand full, but there is always poop around the trap as they just walk by it. BTW, peanut butter is our main bait used. There has been this stray cat hanging around (huge, bad a$$ cat) since my dogs have passed away and I've been feeding it to keep it coming back for more but of course it can't get into my patio or in my shed. I was told to NOT repel the rats from my shed or patio as they will find their way into my home...which I just can NOT allow. What can I do to completely repel them from my yard. I am assuming the rats are crawling up my 6' wooden fence to gain access to my yard as I don't think they can go under it or between the boards (boards are pretty swollen tight). Is there anything that I can spray on my fence to prevent them from even entering my yard once? Obviously a "little spray bottle" of something won't be enough! It needs to be a massive amount of liquid to cover the entire fence and possibly penetrate the wood.
Now that my big dogs are gone, poison is always left out under the shed, along side the hottub, inside the hottub and in the BBQ pit. We do have a boston terrier indoors that wouldn't know what to do with a rat and adopting another or purchasing another wouldn't be an option right now in our lives. Over feeding the cat isn't something I thought about, so maybe I will cut it down half a can instead of a whole can. I do know the cat is a hunter & fighter because since the cat has been around we haven't had any visits from our ole friend the opossum...we've only seen the shreds of fur left over from there meeting :). The rat population is down (going from killing 3-5 per night to 3-5 in a week) so I am guessing that is because of the cat as well but the cat doesn't come every night...which makes sense if something else is feeding it. I'm just at my wits end. The pest control supply stores we've visited of course push their products on us just to make a sale and all have different opinions
Lar - It is an orange tree and it does produce year round. We have placed pieces of the orange (the newly fallen ones) on the traps and it didn't seem to work as well as the peanut butter. We haven't smeared juices on the poison blocks and I think that's a great idea! My husband described the rats to the local pest shop and we were told it was Norway rats...although I'm not sold on that. They don't always look the same..some very long & skinny, some short & fat, some brownish, some grayish, some very dark...but of course I don't stick around to examine their features that well. I get a glance and haul A$$.

Answer
you didn't mention what type of fruit they are feeding on..hopefully there is not fruit out year round. In the period when there is no fruit on the trees, get the same type of fruit from the market to bait the snap traps with. The baits can be hit or miss when there is an alternative food source, though smearing the fruit juices on the blocks may make them more attractive to the rats. I wouldn't use warafin, Norway rats (though you may be dealing with the black rat) have become resistant to it and the newer generation anticoagulants work better. Definitely do not want to place any baits, or traps out in the open for non target animals to get into. Rats have evolved living around man and their pets so they will not be bothered by placing out cat / dog hair.

Maria: There is other alternatives but it would involve having to hire a pro...they can place what is called a tracking powder placed in a secure location they are running in which the rodents walk through it and it adheres to their fur, when they later groom themselves they ingest the dust and in turn kills them. This product is more hazardous to be around than the bait blocks..there is also a liquid toxin they can place out, once again in a very secure spot like under the hot tub area, if they are not taking the bait (food) they may take the water.

You may need the dead rodent to know for sure , but the tail of the Norway rat will not extend past the head if folded back over the body, their nose will be blunt ...roof rats (black rat) the tail will be past the nose of the rat when folded over and it's nose is more pointed. Although the roof rat is also called the black rat, it will come in a variety of shades and colors.

I want to throw a HUGE party, but I have never been to a party let alone planned one. ANY ADVICE?

somethings

Next year I am going to be graduating from college. I want to throw a huge party at my house during the summer, but I have no idea what to do. Just to let you know... I live in a BIG A$$ house that has an outdoor pool that is attached to a 9 person hot tub (the house is shaped like a U with a pool in the center). During the party, I would like to have alcohol served, good food, and awesome music. I am hoping to have about 50 or 60 people. I plan on having the party outside where the grill is so I can cook up some stuff but if people want to stay inside that would be okay too.

This all sounds great, but I have no freakin clue as to how to plan a party. I have never been to a party, and I want to end my college life with a bang (not suicide lol). I have always been real quit, and never really went out or anything. I just watched TV and hung out with my friends (that never went to any parties). I donât even know if I am using the correct term? Do I call it a party, celebration, get together???? What do I call it? Anyway⦠here are some questions that I would like to be answered.

What kind of beer/liquor should I have? (Everyone is going to be over 21)
What kind of food should I serve?
What kind of music should be playing and how loud?
What time should the party start/end?
If the party starts at 7:00 pm, when should I expect the majority to come?
What should I get for party supplies?
Should I lock up my valuables?
Should I tell them to bring a swim suit?
What do I do if the cops come over?
What should I be doing as the party goes on?

Again, I donât know how to plan a party, so if you could answer those questions in detail, I would really appreciate it. Lastly, if you could give me a time frame of what a party like this would be, that would be really helpful. By that I mean, when do I start it, break out the keg, start the music, serve the food, and end the party?
I want this party to be awesome. When my friends are 40, I want them to remember the time, when I threw this party.
Thanks for taking the time to read this, I appreciate any helpful answers.
Most important thing in my un-expert opinion would be the music right? What genre of music should be played? Any recommendations for music artists/songs?

Answer
if there friends and you can trust them then you dont need to lock valuables up if you in doubt then yeah hide them.
if you do a mix of music and very load your guest will go crazy.
you should be enjoying yourself when the party goes on.
just i tip hire a cleaner for the next day :D
start time 8.00 finish time dont have a finish time just but till very late.
food mini sausage rolls crisps nuts popcorn sandwiches mini sausages scotched eggs any thing thats finger food and dont need a plate.
cook all food the day before and store in the fridge you want the music on and load when the guest arrive show them where the drink is where the food is they will find everything else.

if your worried about the police you can ask for permission they just give you a cut off time which is normally okay or just inform anyone that lives near you so they know the arty is happening or even invite them think of that sweet. (one last thing make sure there are condoms in the rooms because it will happen :D )

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